Are They Making Men More Effeminate? Hake vs. Stardust on Modern-Day Debate

Specifically, by "they," we're talking about either universities, or on a broader scale, government. (Hake says obviously, yes.)

Jan 02, 2023

Monday, January 2, 2023 AD, at 5 PM PST (8 EST), on Modern-Day Debate: Are "They" Making Men More Effeminate? | Stardust Vs Hake | Debate Podcast (watch on YouTube). Specifically, by "they," we're talking about either universities, or on a broader scale, government. (Hake says obviously, yes.)

Hake has talked with Stardust (she's nice) a number of times now, and as you probably know, appeared on Modern-Day Debate MANY times!

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Hake's Take

In the Garden, the serpent lied to the woman and tempted her with the knowledge of good and evil. She heeded the serpent and in turn misled the man. Since the man listened to the woman who listened to the serpent, people of the world have trended backwards and upside-down. Instead of the woman listening to the man who heeds God, you have “men” following Devilish “women” — men becoming like women.

Female-minded liberals and communists infiltrated our institutions over a hundred years ago, kissing up to false victimhood, class and race warfare, and phony gender competition / “equality.” Equality is what the serpent tempted Eve with, with knowledge — to become equal with God. She’s been misguided and playing god ever since. A man knows things are not equal; he’s not concerned with what doesn’t matter. But an effeminate male believes in equality (which doesn’t exist).

So now they have that phony communist propaganda from Howard Zinn: “A People’s History of the United States,” dumb libs pretending “slavery” was a “sin,” and lying saying Indians were “genocided,” please! And effeminate minds swallow it up.

Today, at an exponential rate, LGBTIQ madness is off-the-charts trendy and forced down people’s throats. Women are “in charge” — their egos, anger, fears, and emotions catered to. Males fall into wanting in on such action, simping for females and becoming ever more female in their mindset and ways.

As JLP says, any man with anger is a woman. Now you have grown men gossiping, even in churches. This was unheard of before. But it’s worst in universities and in government (and of course media and entertainment — all the same unchristian culture).

Examples of govt and academia making effeminate males

Black Lives Matter — gov’t and universities propped up and validated the fake idea of “racism” for the past 100+ years (especially since phony “civil rights,” all the more more since Obama’s BLM insurrections, and the commie-capitalist supported BLM insurrections of 2020). This has made black men into effeminate losers, perps and thugs and out-of-control actors into victims and martyrs, neither of which any man wants to be. Anyone blaming white people and cops is pathetic.
They push this false victimhood also on females, LGBTIQs, illegals, Hispanics, Asians, and others — turning weakness into a competition, using cringy terms like “intersectional.” Some have called it the “victimhood olympics.”
- Those whom it’s trendy to hate (white people, the beautiful South, Christians, and men) too have fallen to the temptation of fake victimhood, either by feeling sorry for others (which only a woman does), or by feeling sorry for themselves (also an effeminate trait). Or by turning “gay” (which by definition is effeminate).
Gov’t and universities have become tone police — enforcing political correctness against anyone who speaks too freely, too manly. Like FB, Twitter, Spotify, and book publishing companies, they’re run by weak males (and females) who pander to their weakest, most complaining squeakiest wheels… punishing reasonable guys like Jaden McNeil (who made a funny joke about George Floyd on Twitter and was kicked out of school), or sensible men like Rep. Steve King (R-IA) who stood up for Western Civilization and was labeled by his own woman-led now-phony RINO party a “white supremacist.”

Some basic points

Yes, they’re making men more effeminate, in their image, to be controlled and docile. It’s Satanic.
They’re doing it by platforming/deplatforming, reward/punishment, lies: pushing emotions, false rationalizations, undermining morality… resulting in upside-down “logic” and “leadership.”
It’s what happened to them. Unchristian people are illogical. Anti-white people are illogical. Unmanly people are illogical. As JLP (and the Bible) says, man is God’s image and representative on earth. Get rid of real good, and imitation good (aka Evil) can have a heyday.
It’s bad: Dependence, division, victimhood, and anger abound — infecting all sides. The real battle is not men vs women, racist vs antiracist, “normal" vs abnormal sexual freaks, but good vs evil (a spiritual battle within each person… even while standing for what’s right in the world).

Summary

“Men” today (including “straights”) are effeminate. That’s a bad thing. Men (actual men) lead rightly. Now, without men, Satan leads women, who mislead males. There’s no independence, logic, or courage anymore (such vapidness is perfect for Establishment govt and self-serving academia to make themselves feel important and influential).

No man is a liberal. (It’s just a fact.) Today’s “conservatives” are liberal women as well. Both males and women now listen to thoughts, rationalization, and emotions: Blind intellectual tools of Satan.

Universities and government (and unchristian, anti-white media) are where you find this most pronounced and most promoted: the LGBTIQ agenda (which hates children), feminism (which hates men and babies), and a strict attack against free speech (attack on truth, really) and no independent thinking allowed.

“Educated” men vote like women when women shouldn’t even be worrying their pretty little heads about politics! Women are holding office now, humiliating their husbands who pretend not to know better.

Males lose God and logic, and become emotional-intellectual like women when they get into “sex,” which is promoted and encouraged by academia and govt (and unchristian media).

The evil UN’s corrupt WHO, the sleepy “Biden” (Obama) administration (and its “scared” CDC director), all the way back to the 19th Amendment, and even perhaps the communist-celebrated “Civil War” against the beautiful South — have an endless attack on proper masculine worldview and pushing effeminate woman-thinking.

It’s now considered “cool” to be gay — you’re propped up, pandered too, and “celebrated” the more woman-like you are. Whereas the more normal and real of a man you are, the worse you’re attacked (by govt, “educators,” unchristian media, and blind-brainwashed effeminate young people).

World upside down

Obviously, men have gotten more effeminate over the decades and even the last century or so. Some blame the good times — people are spoiled. Some blame the water, some blame the food, others the people Kanye blames, the World Wars, etc., of course women, and other men. There are many fronts in the war on men, and all sorts of ways that Satan attacks mankind.

We all know it's not a good thing for men no longer to be men. Yet the people who "know" the most — those in the universities and in the governments — are the tip of the spear of turning everyone into women and children! Not in a good way!

(Men lead with logic and stability, men have courage, men can take care of themselves and others, and men can't be controlled or manipulated. Men bring women and children up to that level.)

But now, and for many decades of growing degeneracy, boys and young men are taught to follow women and remain as boys (thereby becoming women). They've stripped the average man of his independence (pushing minimum wage, unions, rising costs, screwed manufacturing,). They've propped up women with a false sense of independence (affirmative action, anti-discrimination laws, welfare, no-fault divorce). And generations of children have suffered for it. The gov't feeds the problem, and swoops in pretending to "fix" it — really only enabling and exacerbating it (parents' health insurance till age 26, please!).

Liberalism (has infected 'conservatism')

Liberalism is by definition effeminate. No man is a liberal. It's a woman thing to be. The “manliest” looking guys who are liberals are woman-led shells of men — in Hollywood, in politics…

(Look at “sweatshirt guy” who beat Dr. Oz, he’s led around by his wife just like Sleepy Joe or worse, if that’s possible! Look at what they did to The Rock [Dwayne Johnson], he’s like this harmless silly man whom you can’t take seriously. Teddy bear RINO Adam Kinzinger and poor Lyin' Ted Cruz simping for “women” by “standing” against Trump… *cringe!* — and I like all of those guys I mentioned, except Kinzinger [I need to repent], but so it’s not personal!)

Liberalism is about emotions, fear, anger, cowardice, false “love,” and rationalizing wrongdoing — and it’s infected both parties, and totally poisoned the “education” system.

While conservatism is about logic, strength, real love, a solid moral foundation — for decades increasingly, “conservatism” too has been poisoned with the same evil. (It’s a known rule [look it up, I heard it on my fellow JLP network host Nick of Nickstream] that every conservative institution gets infiltrated by its enemies and becomes liberal.

Look at every college

Responsibility and self-control are not prized on campuses, but sleeping around, partying, kissing up to POCs, “women,” LGBT madness, and hating whites, Christians, and men. And then they turn around and accuse the slutmaking males of “rape,” gimme a break! (Pornography and all that degenerate crap is turning males effeminate as well. But oh, let’s pretend THAT obscenity is “free speech,” says the Devil to the female-minded liberal.)

They have “free speech zones,” where street preachers and others can protest. Because the classroom is not a place for thinking for yourself anymore. (America should be a free speech zone, and “American” social media companies, led by college-educated types — but instead they pretend there’s such a thing as “hate speech,” and pander to other countries’ ways.)

Men don’t overreact to name-calling or “slurs” or harsh criticism. That’s a woman thing. But now the average male is almost as bad as women. Men speak their mind, and allow you to speak yours (but know when to shut up). Effeminate males police your language (sometimes puffing up like misguided white knights, thinking they’re protecting women — they protect the evil in women, protecting POCs, LGBTIQs, and females from the truth).

But the average college-educated male is voting like a woman, much more so than the less-educated whom Trump and I love. Were men men a hundred years ago, women would not be worrying their pretty little heads about politics or “public health” today.

You’ll see men in politics and culture punished for being too manly. That’s why they hate Trump — because he speaks the truth in love, and they overreact and call it hate. They’re the hateful ones, not him. But a woman’s evil is more subtle than a male’s, when an effeminate male turns violent in overreaction to her evil. But you see this one-sided blaming of men and not women — yes when the male is wrong, but all the more when the man is right.

Government caters to women and effeminate males

Look no further than the UN — all they do is kiss up to women, feed their fears, and phony compassion. Most are communists, a Satanic, woman-thinking ideology of taking care of people, taking away their freedom, and killing the innocent, especially those who dissent.

And the U.S. Establishment government is every bit as bad. I already talked about the RINOs and Democrats. (You can see it in the local governments and school boards too.) Sleepy Joe’s all pumped up about “the first black woman” so-called Supreme Court “justice” Ketanji Onyika *click* Jackson. She’s so lost in cowardice, kissing-up, and rationalizing the illogical that she refuses to define a woman. (How embarrassing for her husband all around. How emasculating — same for Amy Barrett’s husband, and Kamala Emhoff’s “husband,” BARF. How unchristian.)

Christian culture is manly, or should be. Unchristian culture is effeminate, illogical, anti-white. (The attack on whites and Christians you see today is part of the attack on men — because they don’t go along with evil so willingly as the rest. They still have a semblance of God’s image of old wisdom, of logic.) But the average church has at best a cheap imitation. So sad (I guess).

But, again, feminization is most pronounced and pushed and celebrated in universities and government. It’s not even close. Even at “Christian” universities such as APU, the males without even being gay were often soft and effeminate and “nice.” And their foundation has been washed away: Kissing up to blacks, the crime-ridden Hispanic community around them, to women, and now ever more to the LGBTIQ agenda.

Just 25 years ago when I was in high school, anyone who acted remotely effeminate would be shamed. Today they pretend to think it’s cool to be gay. Adolescent girls are going on Tumblr, and boys on YouTube, etc., and fed trans/gay proselytizing (promoted by these social media companies in bed with govt and academia). It’s obscene.

Men should not be women

Women should become more like men (logical, unshakable, faithful, heeding wisdom), rather than men like women. A right woman is quiet just as a right man leads a quiet and humble life. A right woman is not easily offended, just as a man is never offended.

No decent woman would fall for trash like “MeToo” (or “Rape Culture”), or “Black Lives Matter,” or “Occupy Wall Street,” or “Women’s March,” or any other trendy “movement.” Those are all about turning women into gods, and men into women (blacks [specifically black perps] into “victims” and blamers …babies into parasites, etc.). But now they have some grown adult males believing in this crap — and it comes most from academia and gov’t (and media).

Women love turning perpetrators and sickos into victims, push phony “anti-bullying” campaigns, and make good men and normal boyish boys out as the bad guys. Not decent women — Devilish women. And effeminate males. Because such confusion breeds more lost people like them, blind leading the blind.

A man is not selfish (I find one honest man in a thousand). A decent woman is not selfish (I find not one honest woman among them all, but some listen).

STARDUST’S TAKE

Who’s “they”?

What’s “effeminate”?

Women more “masculinized” — that’s humiliating.

Victimhood…

Men are emotional and violent… SHE AGREES WITH ME.

Women aren’t counted for their work (THEY’RE ALSO NOT COUNTED FOR THEIR VIOLENCE)

No blame for Adam?

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Thanks, all!

HAKE

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